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For heaven's sake, get rid of Sean Kelly. The man has the most boring, monotone, droning voice I've ever heard in my life. Coupled with sudden gasps for air as his sentences are too long for one breath, he is driving me nuts and ruining my viewing pleasure of the Tour.
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I agree entirely - that's why we're watching the race on ITV4! Unfortunately they only show it at the weekend so we have to put up with monotony the rest of the week.
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No ITV4 is not only on at the weekend.If you press the red button you get it live all week with no adverts.
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I'm sure Sean kelly is a very nice man and is very knowlegeble about cycling, but God!! that voice. Lets face it the job is all about the voice and Mr Kelly is sadly lacking in the priciple atribute. Sorry he needs replacing.
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For those of us that don't live in England and have a clipped accent then it is refreshing to get something different. I am sorry but it is better to have a quietly spoken Irish man knowing wht he is talking about than an English presenter who has to guess waht is going on during the race
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I love Sean Kelly. Even got the chance to meet him in Manchester after a street race in the 80s once. Brilliant rider. Tough as old nails. But he hasn't got the voice for commentary and despite his great knowledge often gets things wrong during Le Tour. So many times he'd mumble that the break would be caught...and it wasn't. Or the break wouldn't be caught...and it was. The commentary on Eurosport really lets the programme down. Compared to Paul Sherwen and Phil Thingy it's really unpolished and quite unprofessional. Harsh but true.
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Sean Kelly is an absolute legend, better to have knowledge and experience in the commentry then the annoying ITV4 commentator who wets his pants everytime someone sneezes!
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ITV4 are a bunch of muppets. allez king kelly.
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for me i grew up watching sean kelly racing and to hear what he has to say every day in the tour makes it alott more interesting than some guy reading from a sheet of paper who has never been on a bike!
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I think the problem is that you need the expertise of a former pro cyclist to give the reason(s) behind many of the moves and tactics of cycle racing hence Sean's presence. The problem is that a good cyclist does not necessarily make a good presenter and is this balance which is the problem and is a very rare commodity to get both in one person. No doubting Sean's knowledge but he will insist on using twenty words when five will do and agree his mono-tonal speech does not help with keeping the viewers attention and you have to listen hard to understand what he is saying. A good sub-titles secretary would be much appreciated!!.
One plus however in addition to watching le Tour in HD is that you avoid the studio group and host who drive me up the wall!!!. Rating :
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My problem with Sean Kelly is simple.
He does not appear to have one bone of humour in his entire body. I just wish that he was'nt so serious on such a constant basis. The Tour is outstanding entertainment every year but on top of Sean K, we also have to put up with a constant stream of concern Re: riders getting hurt in some way. Falling off bikes is all part of the experience. Relax chaps, they are all made of wood anyway and a little sanding soon gets them back in order. Carlton, is far superior due to his touch of irreverence. Very refreshing. Oh yeah. Could we have more info on the Chateau's, Lakes and other features that are seen on the route. Isn't that The Colour-man's job? Rating :
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At least kelly knows what he is talking about not like the other clown. If he mentions armstrongs age again I'll turn the sound down ,,thats what Stewart should do, by the way.I'd love to have a golden voice as I am sure Stewart has.Perhaps someone wants to hea him comment with the same dept of knowledge and authority as Sean Kelly.
PS we all need air to live. Rating :
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anyone know the eurosport e-mail Imight get a message sent before paris
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I have been sending to "cycling.eurosport@yahoo.com" but dont hold your breeath I have sent in several but have not had one answered yet!!.
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Sean Kelly's voice may be boring but he knows what he is talking about.
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Re Sean Kelly's voice:
1. He is Irish ..... 2. He knows what he is talking about... 3. He HAS a sense of humour but he is Irish so his humour not obvious... BTW TVs these days have a really neat gizmo called mute - suggest you investigate this..... Rating :
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sleeeeeepin verrrrry well !
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I think you being cruel on kelly. His Carrick on Siur Accent is probs hard to understand for some folk. I used to live near Carrick and am used the Tipperary accent. I did have the pleasure of meeting Sean on many accasions and went on training rides with him as a fellow meber of the Carrick wheelers. He is a quite a shy man and to do what he is doing on the telly must take a lot of bottle. Maybe he comes accross as boring but like the man says. He knows what he is talking about and "CAN READ THE RACE"
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Not only does this Mr. Kelly have an irritating voice, he insists on using the FRENCH term "Classement General" in an Anglo-Irish version of "General Classement".
He has absolutely no respect for most of the riders in the races covered, be they a grand tour or short criterion. Every time he mentions "Can sell ara" when the man himself will no doubt pronounce it "Can thell ara" is insulting. You can get out of your commentary box at the end of the day Sean and ask the bloke how he pronounces his surname. C --As in English, before a, o and u it is pronounced as a K, as in can. Before e or i the c is pronounced 'th'. Oh and by the way for La Vuelta it's "Clasificación Individual" - "clas-ee-fee-kath-Eon in-dee-Vid-oo-al" Stress on the Last syllable in the first word and second to last in the second. Rating :
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Your an English Teacher are u !!!!!!!! something stupid like that anyway !!!!!!!
Get a life and have some respect for others - some of us are not as perfect as YOU Rating :
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Your an English Teacher are u !!!!!!!! something stupid like that anyway !!!!!!!
Get a life and have some respect for others - some of us are not as perfect as YOU Rating :
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although I agree sean kelly has a monotone voice(and needs to speak louder) his cycling knowledge carries the day every time, especially the ease with which he can correct the other commentators errors in a deadpan way makes me smile.
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He's paid to speak and comment on an English language channel. I am not complaining about his brogue and his way of speaking, I am complaining about the fact he has no moderation in his monotone and cannot get off his backside to learn how riders names are pronounced.
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To Tony,please forgive my ignorance but why would a Swiss man Cancellara pronounce his name as if he was Spanish.
Are there any Italian speaking Swiss out there to advise us? Rating :
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People are just crazy
, Sean Kelly is a legend Rating :
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Hear,hear Mark !!
Its that clown Harmon they need to get rid of. Rating :
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I’ve been following this discussion for some time now and I have to say it makes me rather sad.
Once upon a time there was NO cycle racing on UK television. Poor Belgian videotape and very expensive continental satellite was our only access. Then along came Sky on the Astra satellite at 19 degrees east and alongside it, free to air, came EUROSPORT and Cycle Racing! (International Eurosport still broadcasts in various languages from this platform and it is still free to air). All at once those legends we could only read about in Cycling Weekly were available to us “Live” in our sitting room. CH4 had a reasonable stab at it but it was not live and when you analysed their coverage and removed the adverts and the waffle there was precious little racing left. With Eurosport came another legend, David Duffield. Like him or loathe him he was here to stay and stay he did. He started off as a pleasant old buffer but quite quickly we came to recognise his idiosyncrasies and his ability to ramble on about anything but the race. So now we have Sean and David and it is a relief to have a commentary that sticks to the point and knows what it is talking about. Considering the amount of different sports and languages covered, I doubt that a Eurosport commentator earns a huge salary. So in the words of David Duffield, I think we should say “Chapeau” to Sean and David and stop all the whinging. Rating :
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Tony, have you done any investigations yet re Cancellara?
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I have to say I find peoples IGNORANCE shocking !!!!
PLEASE understand that we are not perfect - NONE OF US !!! I can only imagine that the person making the comment is toatlly uneducated in cycling history - SEAN KELLY IS THERE AS A GUEST COMMENTATOR with David Harmon and thank G*d its not David Duffield the old fart talking about everything but the cycling on the TV Sean Kelly is a retired cycling professional. , a team director etc ... I would appreciate people keeping there disrespectful , ignorant comments to themselves .. I find his input relevant and interesting and v informative because he was IN THE PROFESSIONAL PELETON ... u can always watch the highlights in the evening if u are so disturbed by his " boring, monotone, droning voice " Rating :
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You would think that having the 15th best cyclist of all time, and the 4th best Monument rider of all time to commentate would be enough for some people... obviously not.
Shame the best ranked living British rider is Robert Millar in 150th... For those who are slagging his pronounciation - remember that he picked up some French/Spanish/Italian while he raced on the continent, but this has been inserted into his Irish accent, so it's a big mixture. Slagging Sean Kelly's pronounciation is like slagging Merckx for how he speaks English with a Belgian accent... how silly and juvenile is that? Rating :
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David :- where did you get those Rankings ??
I bet it was a USA sh*t site with their god as No 1. I also take issue with the best GB rider as Miller (who ?) when Tom Simpson won 3 monument Races and a World Championship and many many other races but only got a 6th in the TDF. In the winter he rode 6 day races and won one with Peter Post. The Palmares of the British No 1, if you don't mind and you should compare them both (and others) to get the same conclusion. Barry Hoban will be rated higher than Miller with his many wins. The new kid on the block would be higher if he is British. I'm not sure what Nationality Cavendish he is ?? Born Isle of Man but a dialect of Languishes and he rides in the Team GB. (I.O.M. is not even British let alone Great British) I agree with your post otherwise, that Sean was language educated in the Continental Racing Peloton and we are privileged to listen to it. He spent some time in a Spanish Team and on the continent his face and voice are well known and his opinions are always sort after. The commentary problems are Harmon's method of asking Sean the same stupid questions over and over again and so it becomes monotonous monotone and even Sean is bored with answering them. Harmon's way of keeping control and again "never mind the listeners" if the output becomes more Drivel. We never had problems with Sean when Duffield was there because he asked more intelligent questions for Sean to answer. (yes even Duffield) Rating :
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This Magoo board has a problem with the word Lan.ca.shire and changed it
It's those Idiots in California who need to get a life or at least get some world wide travel. They do not know what a Cu.cu.mber is and confuse it with sex and co.me. Let's see what they do with that as it dosn't show up on "Preview" and just happens with Post. Rating :
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Hey! If your enjoyment is being compromised why not have a go at our tried and tested Sean Kelly Grand Tour drinking game?
The rules: Settle down for the afternoon in front of any Grand Tour with few beers and various spirits. Every time Sean Kelly says "certainly" you have to drink two fingers of beer. Every time he says "classeMENT" consume a single measure. Result: You'll be hammered before the first 10km have elapsed, you'll also have had a bit of fun with your pals-but most importantly you'll be squiffy enough to find the remaining drone actually quite tolerable. Rating :
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You are a fuuny man, I think thats the right term
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I happen to like Sean Kelly's commentary ("certantly") and think he works well as a co-host with David Harmon - he doesn't just blindly agree with what Harmon is saying ("ah, no, I don't really think so"). Listening to Harmon on his own at the weekend, I really missed Mr Kelly's input and was relieved when he joined the team again.
Would you rather they brought back David Duffield? May Mr Kelly have a long career with Eurosport! Rating :
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Totally agree ! Harmon and Kelly combine well to give good commentary
I have noticed "certantly" is not used as much - if at all KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SEAN and DAVID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please please . .. leave Duffield wherever he is !! Rating :
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Are you watching a different British Eurosport to the one I am? They don't combine well at all.
Televised grand tour cycling is similar in some respects to a cricket test. There are parallels in the intricacy, strategy and tactical complexity (that "certainly" requires the knowledgabilty that Sean Kelly clearly posses) however there are also considerable lulls in the action which is the crux of the problem. It is during these periods that the cricket commentators excel, bur Sean Kelley doesn't. Richie Benaud has an accent and some may say a bit of a drone, but he is interesting, humourous and able to articulate in the most entertaining way, peripheral information not necessarily directly associated with the action. David Harmon is excellent at this, however he cannot feed off of Sean's monotone because his interpersonal skills preclude such interreaction. Poor old David ends up doing all the work. A brilliant cyclist though he is and an all round good egg, listening to Sean is rather dull. By way of example, just consider how enertaining it was when Carlton was brought into the mix during the TdF-sadly missing at the Vuelta due to Moto GP duties I presume. He boiunced off Dave Harmon's exuberance brilliantly. One thing I do agree with though-"certainly" has been sadly lacking over the last few stages. What I think we'll do is replace this and drink two fingers of beer every time Dave Harmon misidentifies a rider. Different rule-same outcome. Rating :
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I'm stuck with the German's on International but unable to locate the language.
With the Cricket, they are all knowledgeable about the game but that's not so here. Sean is not allowed to feed off Harmon's Direct Questioning because Harmon has realised that the butt of Sean's Humour is Harmon himself which he never realised until after when someone explains what happened. Harmon asks the same questions many times in the afternoon and then again on most days because of his limited cycling knowledge. Harmon has to make the point that he is in charge, unfortunately and takes great delight in making him sound boring. You may not have noticed that Sean gets up and go's off to chat with the other ex-racing commentators of the different countries just to have a Sanity break from Idiot Harmon. I wish that Kirby & Harmon could "Bounce" about something to do with the cycle race instead of motorbikes or some place they had their Holidays. I forecast that maybe next year or soon, that Sean will have had enough of this moron and be on his way. Rating :
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There is a problem with message boards like this. They enable the uninformed, ignorant and biased a platform on which to air their prejudices. Kelly is fine - we've had FAR worse before! At least he knows what he is talking about and doesn't need to blather on about bottom brackets last night's dinner.
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To not like Sean Kelly's commentary does not make one uniformed ignorant or biased, it is purely a matter of taste.
The common thread of the pro-Kelly afficionados is simply that at least he knows what he's talking about, (which isn't in doubt). Steven Hawking know's what he's talking about, but I'm not sure I could sit and listen to him for four hours in one strectch without saying to myself "this is a bit painful to listen to" Rating :
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I think you guys, who critise Sean, just miss the point, Sean is the best! he has a laconic delivery that a lot of you younger chaps just do not get,!!! he has a wealth of experience and reads a race that only someone of his years of racing can follow. he entertains me and my wife, who is a continental and she can
enjoy his voice and undersatnd his humour, perhaps you out there who think he is boring need to get a bit of a real life experience. Who do you suggest ? Johnathan Ross and his humour. Rating :
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Re : Negative Coments.! Kelly deserves some respect, ridiculous that he is being taken to task over his accent. Real Cycling fans would and do show more respect, which is due to Mr Kelly in spades!!" Go nearai an bothair leat Sean !"
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Nah, fair dues to him, he knows what he's talking about if you just listen. I am pretty sure he knows a thing or two about cycling.
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Greetings Cycling Fans.
Eurosport has done a great job this year with their coverage of cycling and it is great that the drugs message is finally getting through. I respect Mr. Kelly as a rider and I belive he is a nice guy as well but I must agree with the correspondants that find his voice monotonus but he does know what he is talking about. The best cycling commentary I heard this year was when Carlton Kirby and DD got together on, I think the Paris-Nice, (the best race of the year for me). What rapport. So, mayby less Mr. Kelly and more of other commentators? MIKE Rating :
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wake me up when he's gone
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I will be so sorry if they ever bring that village idiot Duffield back full tine. He is the crassest man on the planet, so lacking in knowledge post 1950s. Send him off into the sunset on his silly triycle please(or his Moulton).
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David Duffield will not be back full time.
One thing I have learnt is that everybody gets OLD tuggo, and DD is going well at his alledged 78 years and that must be down to a clean life and bombing about on bikes through the 50/60's. Remember he was only a teenager when he was stationed in Italy (lucky boy) on Army National Service. He did road racing in the peloton as well as his latter exploits on the Trike and then riding tourist (like we all do, except BRF) on his various machines from his garage. What ES has replaced him with is a non road racing cyclist trying to emulate the latter DD and what we really need is a knowlegeable Real cyclist to commentate like the early Duffield, It just shows how bad it is at ES that they cannot afford a decent commentator and have to get an Old man out of retirement to fill in now and again. DD was the best in the last century and then lost the plot and his confidence and began to babble. DD would be recognised in his own right in the TDF village and not have to tag along behind Sean in the hope of an invitation somewhere. This must put a strain on Sean that shows when he is again asked to repeat the same thing over and over instead of his job as an Analyst of the race. You do know who he means when he says third, don't you. Rating :
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WHAT A PLONKER
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Anyone who knows anything about cycling must respect Sean for his knowledge and analysis. He is also endlessly patient at explaining simple things for the nth time!
However, it would be great if he would have a bit of coaching for his speaking voice - it's nothing to do with the Irish accent. He needs to learn how to vary the phrasing and emphasis in his sentences, to make them easier to follow. He should also lose that highly irritating phrase 'You Know'. Record in the Tour was 7 times in one sentence - I had to switch sound off .... Rating :
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