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why wud the premier league want substandard opposition?
look at all the mediocre players who cant get a game in england then go to scotland and r superstars! your so called greatest player of the last decade or so, barry fergueson (yes i cant speel) couldnt even get a start in a poor blackburn rovers team! i cant think of one world class player in the scotland national team! and dont try that english looking down the nose thing cos im half scottish............... |
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who said ferguson was the best from scotland??,,,and anyway, who is the best in premiership, an english player, i dont think so.So now we have worked out your argument is useless,,,the oldfirm would own premiership in 3 to 4 years if we joined,,u lot are just crapping it cause u know its true,,,there are only 2 teams in england also that ever win title,,sound familar
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well put my celtic freind.mon the hoops
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as i see and read it most people don't want Celtic and rangers in the EPL because they think that they are not good enough,well i'm sorry i think that they are i reckon they would be in the top 8 at least but everyone is entitled to there opinion apart from all the racist on this thread you all need to grow up and get past this its not needed in society today,and i feel a lot of people are afraid of the old firm and that's why they don't want them there
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No one is afraid of 'The Old Firm'. But supporters of that club seem unwilling to see that their favourites cannot be allowed to buck the system, or jump the (very long) queue. English Football and Scottish Football are totally separate, and always have been.
You cannot really expect that just because you want it, you can join the English League system at or very near to the top! It simply wouldn't be fair to all the other ENGLISH clubs in leagues like the Wearside League and other (small) leagues like that! Rating :
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Paperboy you are nothing but a pure racist by the look of your photo you should be old enough to understand that there is no need for you to be like that you need to grow up and get a life like many of the English people write off Scotland and there teams you all need to wake up Celtic and rangers arnt up there with the money clubs of Europe so when we play the big teams from Europe they should be beating us with ease but they don't so don't go and say that they would not survive in the EPL because most of you are talking out your arse
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i don't think it's a question of the clubs. Maybe the consideration should concern more the behaviour of the fans. I've been to a celtic rangers game and they make the old days of leeds and manchester united look like playground foolery.
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Granted the old firm match can be a little tense, passions sometimes run a little high. But come on who are you lot to have a go about Scottish supporters. I know you will hit back with Manchester yawn yawn. But how many more countries have you upset because of English club and nation supporters running riot. If we are bad, we still have a lot to learn from you guys. Anyway I wouldn't want to see Rangers and Celtic in the EPL now. We only want to be there for the money. We are huge clubs bigger than all bar Man U down south but don't have the huge TV deal you have and billionaires buying a new toy. That is all we really want. But lets face it.As the financial situation now shows us it all comes crashing down eventually. The billionaires will get bored and bugger, off no-one will be able to afford sky so tv revenue goes down and most clubs will end up sky high in debt. But fair do's enjoy it you deserve it. I personally would prefer a British league but you and us are all too narrowminded to see that would be a good thing for the country. Also before you hit back with usual rubbish. Great Britian, UK all of us not just England without ALL!!! none of us would be any good esp England. You give this we give that we all do well see the point?.
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I support a side from the championship who have just been relegated from the prem (our first ever visit to the highest level) it is I feel a rather conceted view that the old firm should be allowed into the premiership, start at the bottom and work your way up......... that wont be allowed to happen for thousands of reasons, mainly the inability of lower level clubs to cope with your fan numbers, therfore, unlucky and thanks ...but no thanks..... a celtic fan on one of these sites said, 55,000 fanatical fans at each home game, fantastic away support...... they would grace the premiership, both his comments apply to ...let me think... oh yes... Newcastle same fans, but there is more to it than that
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fair enough about rangers fans running riot BUT don't tar Celtic with the same brush. the Celtic support is one of the best and biggest in the world, as for Scotland fans in a whole there is no trouble at Scotland games because it is a party atmosphere. but for English fans there is trouble most of the places you go
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Did i not see a load of Celtic fans causing trouble in a recent friendly against Chelsea. The way I see it Rangers and Celtic are just as bad as each other. I live in the Borders and do get some scottish news stories and I saw you complaining about the famine song then week later at motherwell you sang about the IRA. Scots fans in general are great but old firm can be bad. End of the day I don't wish to have a go at either, most teams even all english teams have had their fans embaresse the club at some point. Look at Millwall cardiff Bristol Liverpool Manchester City and Utd Chelsea Leeds to name but a few all have caused the club to have some sort of rep. Doesn't meen they are all bad. But like most on these boards you want to focus on the last big focal point being Rangers at Manchester. What about chelsea fans at Moscow Liverpool fans against Juve England fans in Gremany sweeden France Celtic fans at Kilmarnock and like I pointed out in London not to mention against Rangers. That is not the issue on this board the main point on this board is the old firm could compete against any EPL club they are bigger than all (infrastructure) except Man U. Money they can't compete but if they had a share of EPL money they could.
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No, why would we want to do that?
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Why would the Premier League need two clubs that are no better than any other club fighting for survival in the top flight?
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Hmm I think the old firm has far more quality than stoke, WBA and boro!!
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Whether Celtic or Rangers should be allowed to play in the Premier league should have nothing to do with their abilities, fan base, or financial muscle. It comes down to geography. They are Scottish teams and as such should play in their own leagues. The EPL is for teams that are from England, not Scotland, nor any other country. I wouldn't want to see Bayern Munich, Barcelona, or Inter etc. playing here, that's what we have the Champions League for. Isn't it bad enough for our national side the amount of foriegn players and managers, not to mention owners we have here, without bringing in foriegn teams. We have enough clubs in this country for our leagues already and the lower leagues need our support more than teams from other countrys.
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They would not survive in the Premier League, Champ 1or 2 would be more suitable.
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This may sound a bit daft and make me sound like an English fan talking about an over inflated English team.
Rangers and Celtic would bring a major problem to the English League. They ARE TOO BIG. Their travelling fan base would cause major logistical problems that the English leagues and police have no idea of how to control. There is no team in England with the true supporters like Rangers and Celtic (Travel to home and away games in very large numbers). |
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How many times do we get this old chestnut. The answer is simple. Celtic and Rangers are Scottish clubs and that's where they belong.
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Simple No.. They are not good enough and would not bring anything to the EPL.. Leave them playing where they are .. lets not indulge the idea further
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nope only comin for the money if they do come start off in the lowest division and give cash to all those in that division and they all have to wear kilts ha ha only kiddin dont think its fare on all other scotish teams they are were they are it would be like real or barce asking to join we are different nations different leagues be proud of who and were they are
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you thought wrong dude as you english say that our league is a mickey mouse league n a 2 horse race,however your english league is a 2 horse race also as it is either man utd or liverpool so do not talk s**t.mon the hoops
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"your english league is a 2 horse race also as it is either man utd or liverpool so do not talk s**t.mon the hoops "
This statement says it all about Scottish supporters. Keep your bigoted views and your second rate teams, north of the border please |
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Complete ignorance of the English premier league. Liverpool havent won for years while Chelsea and Arsenal have. if you want to criticise the English league fine, but get your basic facts right first.
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Should read, Are Celtic and Rangers good enough to join the English league ? What ever happened, should not just jump into EPL but work their way through the system - join play offs to enter div 2. They are both wealthy enough.to earn their right
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It would be fantastic for Celtic and Rangers to join the EPL and leave the SPL, then teams like Aberdeen, Hearts, Motherwell etc have a chance of winning the league!
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Why should these two teams join the EPL??????
It would be at the expense of two ENGLISH teams out of the top flight and two ENGLISH and Two Welsh[Who have been there from the start] from the CHAMPIONSHIP. Why should my team [Coventry City] be denied the chance of premier football because two Sweaty Socks teams want in????? I say F**K OFF !!! |
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NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo for one very good reason,it is the ENGLISH Premier League not Scottish.
They want to govern themselves have their own parliament then let them start up the Scottish Premier league. |
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Eh? ... what do you think SPL stands for then, dipsh!t???
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Celtic and rangers will never get into the epl. end of story. the likes of hull, wigan, stoke, sunderland, west ham etc would never vote to allow them in as it would mean that two of the smaller teams would lose their place and therefore the money that goes along with it, it would be like turkeys voting for christmas. these days football is more business than sport so if sky decide they want celtic and rangers then it happens, but not in the epl. if there was a large enough incentive for the bigger clubs in england ie more money then they would vote not to allow the old firm into the epl, but to have a whole new league set up that would include an invited old firm. this question is for english fans only, who would you rather see, liverpool, chelsea, arsena or manu v celtic or watch thos clubs play hull or wigan or bolton? having the old firm would be a financial decision based on economic and not sporting reason. the problem would then be europe and who would qualify for the champions league and europa cup. as a side issue, celtic have the 8th highest matchday gate turnover in the world. this came from the guardian or the independent or similar. check the home attendances in the sports sections. the draw of these two teams will soon be too great for sky to ignore, especially in the current economic situation. just as a thought, the current league set up could remain the same with another higher league including the old firm, same with the epl, but the clubs in the higher league would have their reserves playing in the epl and spl. anyway just a thought, but money talks and sky money talks very loudly.
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